intruder. >> we are training teachers, actually all school employees, for their application, for their permit to carry a concealed firearm. in utah, they have the unique advantage of being able to carry in schools, we do not restrict law abiding people with a concealed to carry permit from carry not guilty a school. >> hawaii, new hampshire, and oregon also allow teachers with permits to carry on campus. lawmakers in arizona and washington state looking into the idea. such proposals face stiff resistance from gun control advocates, including teachers unions. the american federation of teachers saying, quote, schools must be safe sanctuaries. not armed fortresses. heather, the debate will continue into the new year. >> heather: it certainly will. claudia, thank you. >> kelly: plane crash in russia today leaves four people dead. coming up, did officials fail to enact proper safety measures following a similar incident just days earlier? >> heather: plus, president obama's fiscal back up plan.